Radio daze

Good news, Mark. You can bet we'll be following you

Wow, that is great, Mark. I am sure you will do very well.

You know that Seth Everett is a real camera hog. So whenever he speaks for more than 15 seconds, yawn loudly and tap your watch to make sure it has not stopped.

Contratulations Mark. That sounds like an exciting new project for you. Good luck!

Argh.. congratulations, I meant.
I should be in bed,***** Nyquil hangover.

Catalonotto going to Texas. Always a thorn in the Yanks' side, at least he is heading out of the division.

Nomar back to Dodgers (had two very different halves last year), Sori appears headed to Cubs and Moises Alou headed to Mets.

More later.

So many moves, but the Yankees are staying quiet. I wonder what Cashman is cooking up.

NL MVP award announcement today.

AL tomorrow.

Fernando, sometimes the best move is no move. Not much has been transacted so far that the Yankees would have benefited from by outbidding.

The Matsuzaka deal was outlandish and the only other player who may have helped was Justin Speier. But the 33 year old got 4 years from the Angels.

If PSU (Paul's Snacks University) wins next weekend it is going to the Cereal Bowl!

Hope you feel better soon, Angel, and are resting comfortably. Nyquil® is a powerful drug and is not to be consumed as a beverage.

Generally it is not good to post entire stories on the blog but I am going to post an entire story from Fox Sports because I think it is interesting.

Angels might try to trade for Manny

FOXSports.com

Posted: 1 hour ago

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That's it. The whole story was just the headline.

http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/6191554

Oh I agree. With the exception of Speier there hasn't been a free agent siging that the Yankees could have used, and even then our bullpen really doesn't need that much help.

I've heard that the Rangers are shopping around Mark Teixiera. They need some good young pitching, and the Yankees just recently acquired that. Do you think a trade could work out? Teixiera is a good, young first baseman who could potentially have a long career with the Yanks.

I just know Cashman's working on something, and I like to consider the limitless possibilities.

We'll have to wait. Remember how Brian flew under the radar last year to nab JD? It was a last-minute shocker.

He's not Matsuzaka, but I'd like to see if Brian puts in a bid for Igawa.

Teixeira would love to play on the Yanks. Why?

Don Mattingly.

He idolizes him and even wears the number 23 because of him. I'm sure he would love the chance to play under him, especially if he's next in line to become the manager.

I'm not going to speculate on who the Yanks should send the Rangers, but I'm sure something could be arranged if Cashman thought it was a good idea. But it would have to be a lot of pitching talent.

Ah, but Mark, when the Redskins beat the Cowboys, you were "reveling" my friend. Injuries are no excuse. Poor Washington...bla, bla, bla....bottom line is Dallas is a better team this year....I love it when Washington loses, injuries or no injuries, a loss is a loss....OK, done now....however, if Washington plays the Giants again...go Skins....

I agree, and that's why I'm waiting in anticipation. I definetely didn't see the Johnny Damon acquisition happening. I just think it'd be crazy if Cashman landed a big name out of no where.

Igawa doesn't sound like he'll be much of an upgrade. He's said to have an 84-88mph fast ball, with a pretty good curve ball. The one thing in his favor is that he looks ferocious.

I didn't know that about Teixiera. I think if we gave them Sanchez, Rasner, and Veras they'd be more than happy to trade him.

Plus, I heard that when Teixeira was in High School a Red Sox scout had come to his home and some how insulted his father, which led them to sign with the Rangers. They mentioned it during one of the Rangers/Yankees games. I thought it was funny when I heard it.

I've been saying this ever since the rumor started, teixera would be a great fit...Paul has been saying it since like august lol.

He's already clean shaven too. I would love if texas took sanchez and then maybe some lower prospects. Tex is a big deal, especially in yankee stadium, I might even go as far as to give up clippard with such a long line of pitching prospects waiting.

Not a bad idea, rasner, sanchez or clippard (hopefulyl sanchez, clippard doesn't have injury history to my knowledge) and then maybe a low level prospect should be plenty

the problem is I don't know who else wants him and what they can offer, I would even eat part of his contract, texas is used to deals with us like that.

I've been pushing the Tex deal since Spring of 2002. Just kidding. But I think we should try to work that out. Even though offense isn't really a huge need now, its better to get him than to just settle for some free agent.

He not only has a powerful bat, is a switch hitter with power from both sides, but he also plays gold glove defense and can play for a solid 10 yrs.

My endorsement of Teixeira clearly contradicts my persistent support of Eric Duncan, but frankly, you don't get much better than Teixeira.

Doubt anything will actually happen though. Even if you are desperately looking for pitching, you just don't give up talent like Teixeira.

yeah but the rumor mills almost all say texas is shopping tex, so I don't know how hard texas is holding onto him and they are desperate for pitching.

Tex would be a great pickup, but I just don't see it happening.
The Yanks clearly need pitching, and not another bat. I'd love to see a guy like Andy Phillips get a chance at 1st, and you could spell him w/ Giambi and get Melky in there every now and again.

As for Cashman, my prediction is that he turns around and trades the young guns we've been getting for an established #3 starter. This way we'll have our 5, Proctor as our potential 6th, and then the several good young starters from our farm system coming up in the next year or so to replace RJ and Moose.

Later guys...

Texas gives up talent all the time.

I wouldn't want to see Andy Phillips starting next season. He's a good backup guy, but his bat is weak and he has trouble with breaking pitches. I honestly beleive we could make that trade since we have good young pitching that we can trade while still holding onto our key pitching prospects.

I don't think some people are getting it. Tex isn't a big bat trade, he is a gold glove defense that happens to be the the full package trade. We'd be getting him to improve our defense AND our offense, and maybe even our clubhouse, plus he is young and has not even hit his prime yet. With chamberlain on the radar now, sanchez, hughes, clippard, kennedy, and that tall guy i always forget and mike always reminds me of, we have more than a pitching staff of solid prospects in the system, plus we know wang is going nowhere. Plus there is karstens. We need pitching right now, but not 1,2,3 years down the line. The pitching can be solved right now with a guy like lilly or meche. Giving up 1 or 2 prospects for a guy who is also young (we're not giving up talent for a veteran) and can solve our first base problem for the next decade (giambi will be gone in what two years anyway?) is worth it to me, when we still have 5 or 6 more in the system.

The Yankee pitching prospects are the only strength we have right now int he farm, you can argue we have an influx, i wouldn't hurt to get a guy like tex using 1 or two of them.

Obviously not guys like hughes, brentcox or both sanchez AND clippard.

Hey Swo,

This could just be my impression, but it seems like Duncan has been a huge dissapointment, and he's not looking like he's improving as much as you'd like. Kind of like CJ Henry or whatever his name was who we got in the first round draft pick a couple years back and we recently traded to the Phillies.

Rasner is in there too* That makes 9 counting wang.

I think my idea to trade Rasner and Sanchez for Teixiera is a good one. Throw in Veras if you have to. I think it would be fair.

Fernando, If Texas is happy with rasner sanchez and veras, than I am too. That is two potential starters, one a potential high end starter and a reliever, and 2 of the three have legit big league experience already. Plus with cox, the previously mentioned starting prospects and an already fairly young pen in proctor, bruney, farnsworth, and Beam if he ever gets his act together, we will only need a replacement for Mo in the future anyway. And that is all assuming we don't use free agency for any pitcher.

The interesting thing about Igawa is that he is 27, shouldn't be expensive, and is a lefty. The Yanks don't have much in terms of young lefty starters.

If it's true about the Red Sox scout ticking off Teixara's father, it proves what goes around comes around. Once a Yankee scout ticked off someone's dad. Kid by the name of Carl Yastrzemski.

The tall guy is Dellin Betances, and yes, it was C.J. Henry who went to the Phils.

10 min. to NL MVP...

Veras came from Texas.

Giambi, Duncan, ARod for Teixeira, Youg, Laird.

No pitchers change hands.

Cashman would tell Hicks that if Hicks does not make the move he is trading ARod and Giambi to the Angels.

Then replace Veras with Beam, I like veras more anyway. the MVP is at 2:04?

I like your strategy Paul.

You know what's interesting? Outside of Myers, we currently have no lefty releivers. Will they sign Villone?

In this year's draft I hope the Yanks can focus on LHPs if there are any out there.

One of the reasons I do not want Zito is he will cost a 1st round draft pick.

Is there a list somewhere as to which free agents are A list free agents. Someone wrote that the Yanks would gain a draft pick if Villone signs elsewhere. That was absurd. He is not a type A free agent.

I like him, but he is not an A.

Announcement at 2:00. (time off a tad)...

The NL MVP is...

Ryan Howard

Villone, i think, is a Type B

falejandro, Minor League prospects are gauged more by their potential than by their raw stats. Andy Phillips had a disgusting year at AAA last year, but he wasn't given any attention by Major League teams because the potential isn't there. Yet Duncan is still regarded as the top infield prospect because clearly something is there that doesn't translate to stats. He's shown flashes of brilliance, and all he needs is to stay healthy and remain consistent.

I'm not saying stats have nothing to do with it, but certainly stats alone don't say everything. Mariano Rivera and Derek Jeter had some pretty unimpressive Minor League seasons too.

Oh, and as Mike already learned, I'm never going to yield in my support of Duncan, so don't bother trying to convince me otherwise! :-P

Paul, you've got a persistent sales pitch. I'm still not buying though :-D

That is the official announcement.

Howard wins.

Details to come.

He was most deserving to win, Mike. He was a real basher.

How was Ryan's defense? He is a big man but I recall another big man, George Scott, who was a terrific 1B player.

From ESPN:

Howard received 20 first-place votes, while Pujols received 12. Howard's 388 total points were 41 more than Pujols (347). Lance Berkman (230) finished third.

Is it possible to only get first place votes?

Swo, I have wanted to get Teixeira as a Yankee for 3 years now. More than you wantthe guy from Cincy.

If I had a sister I would offer her to Teixeira. May I borrow anyone's sister? She will marry a potentially wealthy man because he is a free agent next year.

The Yanks should not trade anything for him unless they could sign him to an extension. But as good as he is I would not trade 3 pitchers for him unless 2 of the three were Colter Bean and Kris Wilson. But since they are free agents I doubt they could be traded.

Imagine how scary Howard would be if he cuts down on the Ks (181 last year).

Then he'd be as good as Albert Pujols.

:-D

I don't like Pujols any more. I read that he mocked the other teams several times in the playoffs. That is not a wise thing to do, win or lose.

Sure, it's possible to be unanimous.

I would say Howard is average. No Scott, to be sure. Remember Pujols won the GG.

Teixeira would be super, but what would Texas want? I think they would ask for you-know-who given their pitching woes, and HE is off limits.

The MVP vote goes 14 points for a 1st place vote, then 9-8-7-etc. down to 10th place. Voters are to list 10 names in order. There are rumors that if Jeter wins, he could do it by not having the largest number of 1st place votes, but by placing in the top 3 on all ballots.

Good choice on Howard. If he could boost his average in years to come he has the potential to be a triple crown winner, though if Pujols could out slug Howard I suppose he could be a triple crown winner as well. I think Howard won it by carrying the Phillies the last month. Its a good look.

I heard the same rumors mike. I would include sanchez in the tex deal but they will want established talent too, so you have to throw in Rasner. I would assume an unproven pitcher and a high prospect pitcher are not good enough so that is where beam comes in....Though if texas wants pavano, it's a wrap. Give them pavano and sanchez and call it a day.

Ok time to get a haircut, ill be back later

Boost his average? He hit .313!

Just needs to cut the Ks...but even with 181 Ks, .313-58-149...scary.

And great power to LF...which helps in that bandbox.

To be a triple crown winner you need to lead the league in all three offensive categories including batting average. .313 isn't bad, but not close to the .344 that Sanchez hit this season. Not to mention that he's still behind Pujols .331 average.

To win the triple crown you must lead the respective league in
1. batting average

2. RBI

3. home runs

You also must write an essay and be recommended by 4 out of 5 dentists for their patients who chew gum.

Yaz last to win TC---in 1967.

Most people forget that Yaz tied for the league lead in HR that year...

44...

with Harmon Killebrew.

I'd take Teixeira in a heartbeat. Texas needs pitching right now, so it would probably take at least one of the pitchers most ready for this year - Sanchez, Rasner, or Karstens.

Three young pitchers may be pushing it, I'd try 2 pitchers plus Phillips. Matt Stairs is the Rangers back-up 1st baseman so they'll need a replacement.

Russ ... it will be fun to watch the Cowboys go down in flames on their own. Unfortunately for you, they don't play the Skins again.

All I know is, come Super Bowl Sunday, both of our teams will be at home.

It is Monday and I am so tired today. I think I still have jetlag coming back from the Tim Cruise-Katie Couric wedding.

Not sure why I was invited as I do not follow celebrity things.

It was great to see Katie Couric again. I told her I missed her from when we did the Today Show together, but then she pointed out it was actually Al Roker on the Today Show and not me.

I have so much trouble keeping up with all the celebrity news.

I think I am coming down with a cold or scurvy or something awful. Maybe Angel gave it to me.

I checked my temperature and it is at 180°. The only thermometer I could find was a meat thermometer but it does not taste like meat at all.

I'd have given the MVP to Pujols. Their basic offensive stats were a wash except 181/50 strikeouts, which I think is a huge advantage for Pujols. Both carried their teams to almost identical records. Howard is an average fielder, Pujols is Gold Glove. But the biggest advantage is in hitting with RISP (Pujols hit .397 — well above his season average, Howard .256 — well below his season average), and RISP and two outs (Pujols hit .435, Howard .247).

Hey all.. Ryan Howard wins NL MVP!! Very very much deserved, IMO; I think the reason Howard won over Pujols is that Howard was more singly responsible for his team's run. For a 2nd-year player to do what Howard did, I think, is impressive enough to win him the MVP.

Anyway, reading thru the comments, I definitely love the idea of trading for Tex. Paul, I think your proposal, while certainly intriguing, is prob. a bit too ambitious to happen. I'd go for the deal Andy suggested-- 2 pitchers, one who can start in 2007 plus Phillips. For some reason I'm really keen on Rasner so I don't want it to be him that goes. Sanchez, while he is said to probably have better stuff, also kinda scares me with the whole being on the DL 8 times in the last 4 years thing. I'd actually want to keep Sanchez and Rasner tho, and send Karstens, Phillips and maybe Britton, but maybe we couldnt get away with that.

Anyway, who does everyone think the Yanks should/will sign as a backup C? I think they need to act soon on that because the market is thin, it won't take long for the best options to be taken.

I was for Henry Blanco but the Cubs resigned him, I think the best option would be Gregg Zaun. Someone on here I think spoke of rumors of him going to KC--egads brain--so the Yanks should act on this. I would also be in favor of Lieberthal if he is willing to be a backup.

I agree with the Gregg Zaun idea, though they may want to consider trading for a backup catcher. I like Javier Valentin on the Reds seeing how he's a switch hitting career backup catcher.

Backup catchers are primarily good defensive catchers. I'm not so keen on Gregg Zaun in that sense, but maybe Tony Pena can work on him or something. I frankly don't care who we get for backup, so whatever Cashman does is good enough for me.

I just read that the Dodgers re-signed Nomar..2 year deal, $18.5 mil. So I guess we can scratch the idea of signing him to play 1st although I was never that big on the idea/never thought it was going to happen.

I think Toby Hall is the best bet. He is younger than posada and was a starter for a period of time. He was also pretty clutch.

Tex for phillips a guy like rasner and a guy like sanchez might actually work, and since we aren't doing much this offseason I would put some sort of money incentive in the deal if I had to also

Oh and I also think Hall has played some first base in his day as well and would be fairly cheap.

Is Hall an FA?

Hey isn't that Pelittere guy or whatever his name is doing pretty good in the AFL? Could he be considered for the back up roll as a young, defensive catcher? Who else do we have in the minors that we could bring up?

Speaking of catchers and minors, whatever happened to that 16 year old 230 lbs catching prospect they signed for a million dollars over the season? Is he going to be in the minors any time soon?

Mark is live on the air right now. Follow the link above.

I think Zaun wants to go somewhere he can be the #1 catcher. Valentin is not a FA, he's signed through 2007 with club option for 2008. Hall is also signed through 2007.

My guess is we'll get someone like Robert Fick or give Todd Greene another try. I like Lieberthal if he's healthy. Maybe we can convince Barajas to back up Jorge for 2 years then take over as #1. It would be nice to have a back-up catcher that's not an auto-out.

Fernando, Pelleteri (not sure how to spell his name) sounds pretty good sounds good. And I think they should consider if he is ready for the majors.

As for Baby Huey, he will be in the minors next year I think.

Yes, I know Valentin is not an FA, but still a decent trade option. And let's be honest, the market is very good for free agents, but not very good for teams. Trading may be a necessity.

The way I see it...unless the guy is really good, we really shouldn't have to trade for a backup catcher.

I wrote about Zaun possibly going to KC. I don't like Lieberthal at all.

Someone I'd consider is Damian Miller. 37, which I don't like, but experienced, has a ring, caught Randy in Arizona.

Pilittere has not played above A ball.

The young catcher you are thinking of that will be in the minors next year is Jesus Montero.

Hmm, Toby Hall might be a good bet, Vince. I didn't even know he was a FA, but I think he is adequate and like that he plays 1st too. Barajas isn't a bad idea but I wouldn't want to assure him of the everyday job in 2 years! And also, I agree Swo at this stage, we should not be concentrating on trading for a backup C. I certainly wouldnt have minded if Vance Wilson had been included in the Sheff deal, but he wasn't so we just have to take the best of what is out there. The reason I think it's a somewhat pressing need is because we should sign someone soon, before all the good guys are taken.

Mike, why don't you like Lieberthal? Injury risk?

Just don't like the way he calls a game or his D. It seems like the times the Phils did well recently were the times he was out and someone else caught (a few years ago w/Estrada, this year with Coste). Not only that, I think it was last year where he hit something like .147 with RISP.

I'd love to have a young backup C, but with the youngsters on the way, a good steady hand to guide them might be more important. One of my selling points for Miller.

Just my opinion. I thought a few years ago the Phils pitchers had a much better ERA when Pratt caught them than Lieby. So that is my argument.

Mike isn't Posada the good steady hand and the backup should be younger but not necessarily very young so they have a catcher to bridge the gap?

Good point, Vince. But I'd have both. Esp. in the bullpen. Who's to say. Zaun could be available now. I see KC traded for Jason LaRue of the Reds. Barajas would not be a bad backup. I wonder if Miller would "drop down" into a backup role. The Brewers had a club option on him but I haven't read anything on whether they picked it up. Out of the backups available (posted on previous blog) I liked Miller the best.

Here it is:

backup catchers:

Widger (been there, done that)

Javy Jopez...yeh, right

Mirabelli...uh, no.

Sandy Alomar Jr. ...is 40

Paul Bako

Rod Barajas

Gregg Zaun (rumored to go to KC--who knows now that KC went and got LaRue now)

I doubt seriously that Benjie Molina (FA) will take a backup role. Both Jays catchers, Zaun and Molina are free agents.

Todd Pratt...old

Einar Diaz

Damian Miller (if he would accept backup role, would be a good fit despite his age...one year deal?) Did Brewers exercise club option?

Mike DiFelice ... No. Was actually catching in AA Binghamton last year.

Kelly Stinnett...been there, done that

Mike Lieberthal...not sold on him. Don't know if he would accept backup role.

Mike Piazza...can't play 1b, and I doubt seriously that he'd accept a backup C role. Lousy Def. C anyway.

Todd Greene...been there, done that (how many times have I written that?)

Sal Fasano...once more, been there done that.

Gary Bennett

Robert Fick

That's it....open to your opinions...

I should add hall is not a FA, but he would require very little in return

Mark was terrific on MLB-TV.

How old is Robert Fick? I once liked him a lot but lost track of him. He is very versatile, 1B, outfield, and I think a switchhitter.

Was he on Tampa?

I'd go with Rod Barajas...he's got a good name and he was formerly a starter.

Yanks added 3 youngsters to the 40 man roster.

Chase Wright, Jeff kennard and Bronson Sardinha.

At least Wright is a LHP. Got to get him in AA next year. I don't know too much about him except what's written in the press release.

Wright, 23, was named the 2006 Florida State League "Pitcher of the Year" after posting a 12-3 record with a league-best 1.88 ERA in 37 games (14 starts) with Class-A Tampa (119.2IP, 95H, 32R, 25ER, 43BB, 100K). He held opposing hitters to a .218 batting average (95-for-435) during the year and went 4-0 with a 0.80 ERA in his final five starts of the season (33.2IP, 3ER). Wright ranked third among all Class-A pitchers with his 1.88 ERA and was tied for second among all Yankees' minor-leaguers with 12 wins. In his last two professional seasons, Wright has gone 22-7 with a 2.90 ERA and 210 strikeouts (62G/38GS). He was selected by the Yankees in the third round of the 2001 First-Year Player Draft.

Fick turns 33 next year, and yes C/1b/3b/of in his career.

Barajas is 31.

I'd also like to see the Yanks jump on Eric Gagne...he could probably be signed for a low amount of guarenteed money but with big upside.

Fick bats L, Barajas R.

Barajas wants to start, would have to be convinced otherwise. I believe Miller had a player option that he exercised to stay with the Brewers.

barajas I wouldn't mind, he kills us too. Wright sounds like the truth so far and playing for florida state he certainly didn't face pushovers. Why have I heard of bronson, what did he do, I know I heard about him.

Free Agent Catchers and their status:
http://mlb.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/mlb/news/hot_stove/y2006/free_agent_tracker.jsp?fastatus=all&subscope=pos&teamPosCode=2

Thanks, Mike. I remember Fick hitting well against the Yanks.

Wright sounds good but at 23 still in the lower minors seems stuck down there.

Thanks for the link, Andy. That eliminates Miller.

Checked out some of the link. Class very weak.

Sardinha is an OF. Started at Trenton, finished at Columbus. RF.

We ARE talking about backup catchers here...I can't say I remember the last time there was a bumper crop of talented backup catchers...

hahah that's why I know his name, i saw him play haha.

Dodgers signed Juan Pierre for 5 years.

DOH!

doh? I was watching MLB-TV and they just announced it. I thought it just was announced.

Yes, Doh=what a mistake.

I suggested this months ago. Finally, the Yankees are starting to think like me...

http://mlb.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/news/article.jsp?ymd=20061120&content_id=1744247&vkey=hotstove2006&fext=.jsp

Wow, when Juan Pierre gets a 5 year deal you know the market is pretty weak! Out of all the names on the FA backup C list, the ones I'd be most amenable to are Zaun, Barajas and Lieberthal. I think Lieberthal is fooling himself if he thinks he will get a starting job next year! Maybe I am putting too much stock in hitting in liking Lieb. and Zaun, but I would like the Yanks to move on this soon either way, just so we don't get stuck with the dregs of this list.
Anyhoo, I'm nervous about the Giants game! Especially because I need Tiki, Shockey and Plex to score me like 30 fantasy pts, lol. Anyone heard a final word yet on if Osi and Madison are playing, I have to go check on that. Since the Jags are banged up too, every little bit helps. LET'S GO BIG BLUE!

Andy, you suggested they make Proctor a starter?

I think he would be pretty good but it would be tough to lose the versatility and dependability he brought to the bullpen.

But the bottom line reason Proctor was overused last season was not because Torre abuses pitchers. (That is a crock.) But because the starters were poor.

The Mets just decided to decline Glavine's $14 million option.

On the show Mark was on he was talking about the trade between Atlanta and Baltimore sending Tim Hudson to Baltimore and Hayden Penn to Atlanta.

I agree Paul, it isn't that Proctor wouldn't make a good starter but I am skeered to lose his arm out of the pen. I have heard people use the argument that if our starters are quality, our bullpen won't be as important, but I disagree--the bullpen is ALWAYS important. You never know with injury, doubleheaders, Farnsy's back, Moose's groin (even tho I have that under control, lol), Randy's back, Pavano's everything... and even the best starter is going to get shelled sometime.
Don't get me wrong, I'd rather they start Proctor than sign a Meche or Schmidt, but I hope that when Cash told him to report to camp ready to start, he was just being cautious incase something he is looking at now falls through.

Actually, to be honest, I am increasingly hoping they can convince Pettitte to come back for a 1 year deal. That way they don't have to bite on any of the mediocre FA pitching and can wait till something more promising comes along next year. If Andy is serious about retiring, this would allow him to do so with HIS TEAM, in NY where he belongs. And no long-term commitment from either party. Seems to be a decent fit if you ask me!

I suggested Proctor be a starter before last season because up until that point he hadn't done anything for the team.

Before last season, I was suggesting that Proctor be included in trades... man am I glad that didn't happen! I remember reading around this year's deadline that Scotty had expressed discontent that his name was being oft-mentioned in trade rumors.. Cash told him, it's okay, just start pitching like you did last year and I can assure you you won't hear your name in trade discussions anymore. LOL!!

Ah, but Mark, the Cowboys will have a better record, and better team this year, even if they both don't go to the Super Bowl, which is 2nd best......just like the Yanks were better than Boston this year, even though neither of them went to the World Series....

Bo Derek turned 50 today.

That is 5 times Ten.

Hey all.

This certainly has been a winter of overpaying...the Red Sox on Matsuzaka, the Cubs on Soriano, and now the Dodgers on Pierre-yikes, what are they thinking. 5 years?!?!

Someone (Alex?) mentioned picking up Gagne. That is a move I would definitely agree with. Throw in a few incentives and a cheap basic contract and you get a low risk, high reward player that would really make the back of the bullpen scary and make the transition easier if Proctor is going back to the rotation (something I would not support but could handle if it were necessary).

On the backup C topic...no strong opinion in any direction. Hall, Barajas, Zaun...I'd be fine with any of them and they are a bit of an upgrade over the mess of this year.

Not sure when I'll be able to post on here again...busy night tomorrow night, then leaving for Thanksgiving in Chicago on Wednesday. Should be fun, spending time with all of my Cubs fan cousins. I doubt they'll be happy with the latest desperate attempts by the Cubs...not just Soriano and Piniella, but Mark DeRosa for 3 years, re-signing Kerry Wood, Wade Miller...yikes.

Though on second thought, the AL MVP is announced in 15 hours so I may need to put up a celebratory/ranting post, depending on the outcome.

Go DJ!

"If I had a sister I would offer her to Teixeira. May I borrow anyone's sister? She will marry a potentially wealthy man because he is a free agent next year.

The Yanks should not trade anything for him unless they could sign him to an extension. But as good as he is I would not trade 3 pitchers for him unless 2 of the three were Colter Bean and Kris Wilson. But since they are free agents I doubt they could be traded.

Posted by: paul1040@aol.com | November 20, 2006 02:14 PM "

GIVE HIM TO ME!!! Oh I think he is dreamy, a great player and the fact that he is a Donnie Baseball fan really is just the cherry on top of the whipped cream. I will glad give myself over if that's what it takes to get him on this team... although I doubt that is what it is. A girl can dream, can't she?

Kat, the sacrifices you are willing to make for the Yankees! We are in your debt.

Now we have a hot babe to lure him! He is ours!

Hey, I do what's best for New York, ya know?

We will just pretend he's not married...

Believe it or not, Russ, I have grown to hate the Eagles and Giants so much more than the Cowboys, since I have many friends from NY and Philly. With McNabb out for the year and the Giants looking shaky, I don't really care what happens to Dallas.

The Redskins win over the Cowboys will go down as my top highlight of the year, so I'm as happy as a fan of a 3-7 team can be.

At least I still have USC to root for.

Jeez Mark we don't agree on anything. Giants are only shaky because of injuries, the main ones are temporary.

hahahahhah paul, I got the 10 joke even if nobody else did, mainly because I own that movie and when you're 10 years old watching it you discover certain...things.

I like USC, but if they play Ohio State, they'd lose by at least two touchdowns. Now, I wouldn't be happy if Dallas were 3-7 even if they beat Washington twice. I hate the Eagles, Giants, and Skins equally. Skins could step up and play a half way descent game and beat the Giants for me later in the season, that would be nice. OSU would have beaten Michigan by 9 points or more if they weren't playing the prevent defense late in the 4th quarter Saturday. They really are unstoppable this year. Pretty good for a team losing 9 defensive players from a year ago.........

Although, still like pro football better. College football has some dumb rules that I can't stand, especially the pass interference rule that isn't a spot foul and your down when your knee touches, just to name a couple of dumb rules.

How can you say that? Michigan was a personal foul away from winning that thing. All the momentum in the world, the comeback in motion and they ransack troy brown's face into the sidelines and get a penalty and OSU turns it into a td. That was it, michigan came right back with another td but it was too late, without that personal foul it would be OT and then who knows.

*OT because it was 3rd down and OSU would have had to take the field goal, which would have made it a 7 pt game and not 11.*

8 and not 11* the 2 pt conversion was good either way.

wait no I was right, 7 and not 11* lol.

The Giants aren't playing all that well tonight, but they're getting some questionable calls. How was that not pass interference?

How did Mark's radio/tv shows go? Did anyone get to listen?

Ugh this cold is killing me.

It was, the Giants don't deserve to win this game either way, terrible showing, their injuries are showing for the first time. They can't contain girard, they can't stop the third down conversions, and Eli looks like he did in his first season, this is ridiculous, this is the second most sick I've felt watching a team since the Yankees in games 3 and 4.

Michigan scored thier final TD due to a prevent defense. And that was a personal fould on Michigan. Dumb play, it was like 3rd and 15 and he hit Smith head to head. And I love the way the Giants are playing tonight.....go JAGS!!!

Their defense has disappeared. Has Plaxico Burress got Teflon on his hands? How do you have two guys on a QB and NEARLY sack him, but dont?

There won't be any Giant injuries in two weeks when they play Dallas, we know that.....

AND he gains 30 yds because you didnt sack him!

Yes, Arrington and company will come back from their season ending injuries, just to play the Cowgirls.

Why is Jack DelRio in a suit? I just turned on the game??

lol, I have a cold. I should get in bed before I become Slightly Irritable and Insane™

I have no idea. Chris Berman is more than I can take.

YES........26-10........YES

Yes, Cowboy highlights from yesterday...I love this channel LOL

It's bizarre. Every Cowboy fan i've ever met (and there is a lot of them around here) has been almost more obnoxious than the most obnoxious of Red Sox fans.

FUMBLE.......YES!!!!! GOOD JOB CARTER.......

Quit being a poor sport Angel...everyone rips the Cowboys when they lose......

Cowboys fans are a joke. Most of them have been big fans since the Aikman days.

As for Ohio State, just remember that any team can beat any team in one game. USC can certainly give them a run if they get there. After all, wasn't USC supposed to roll over Texas last year?

And I can say same about Giant fans? More obnoxious than Sox fans? Go Jags...have a good night all!!!

Russ, you seem like a typical Cowboys fan. You revel in the misery of other teams more than you care about your own team. I guess I shouldn't be surprised.

The Giants are too inconsistent to make any real noise. They're not in the Bears' class -- or the Seahawks or Panthers, for that matter. They'll be one and done in the postseason again.

A poor sport? LOL

Did you EVER think that possibly YOUR attitude is what contributes to people ripping on the Cowboys?

Delrio is weird, I don't know why he has a suit.

Oh please, Michigan was torching OSU the entire 2nd half, they would have scored regardless of the defense OSU was fronting, the personal foul was the difference. The only players that might be back in two weeks are madison and maybe strahan. Arrington short, toomer umeniora are all due to remain out

Your funny Mark. Been a Cowboy fan since 1975, way before Aikman. That is like saying "Redskin fans are a joke. Most of them since Thiesman".....come on Mark...IF USC gets to the title game, let's have a friendly wager Mark. They OSU would kill them. Would be a laugher.....But I assume Mark wasn't talking to me about "Cowboy fans being a joke".....have a good night!!!

I will say this ... I can't wait to see what happens when TO and Parcells finally blow up. It's only a matter of time.

Parcells probably won't even come back next year, anyway.

Mark the giants were rolling before arrington strahan umeniora, madison and toomer all went down, this has happened for the last 2 or 3 years now. For the record, Del Rio has mismanaged this game, his players won it for him.

I don't wager, sorry.

OSU is a better team than USC. A much better team, for that matter. They will likely beat them, but anything can happen. No best of seven there. One game, anything can happen.

Russ, I wasn't questioning how long you have been a Dallas fan. But the typical fan I run across latched on to them in the 90s and couldn't tell you who Roger Staubach is.

Geez. You're as annoying of a football fan as you are a Yankees fan, at times.

"I've been a fan since... " so somehow being a fan for a long time makes your fandom indisputable?

And OSU's defense looked really good against Michigan. Really good.

You wanna talk about one and done? Cowboys if they make the playoffs will be one of them. Giants can still get the 2 or 3 seed in the nfc, sad, but true. Bears will be in the superbowl though. I don't buy into the bandwagon of the cowboys at all, I don't care who their QB is.

Right ... but Benedict Arrington is out for the year, as is Toomer and possibly Strahan. Osi will be back, but until Eli starts playing more consistently, this team isn't going anywhere. Every time he plays a tough D, he struggles. He's no Peyton.

I dont know about that Vince. They look woeful out there tonight. Nothing is happening for them. Their injuries haven't helped though, I agree. They're missing a good part of their defense and you can tell.

I'd hate to spend my life being in my siblings shadow. There's no way i'd do that to myself, lol.

Angel I saw a lot of Mark today on the TV radio thing but I was interrupted 34370957397503 times by phone calls. So I missed part of it.

I saw when Seth Everett's toupee fell off and he climbed on Mark's lap. I have no idea why. I think Seth was drunk for much of the show.

His passes have looked kinda undisciplined tonight.

Mark they have SEVEN defensive starters out, that's more than half, madison, short, strahan, and osi will all be back playoff time, which injuries or not this time will win 10 games. I think the giants lose in the divisional round as a 3 seed.

I actually rooted for the Cowboys to beat the Colts on Sunday.

After rooting for the Cowboys I needed 3 showers after.

And an exorcism.

*blinks at Paul*

I wont be able to catch it tomorrow either, that is 2-4pm for me and I will be slaving away at work, dealing with ill-mannered Illinois employers groups, lol.

Yes he is no Peyton, which is why before he retires he will have a ring.

I applaud your optimism, Vince. I dont feel that optimistic, I'm not sure why. But then, I know less about the game than you.

I was rooting for the Colts. I really loathe the Cowgirls, haha.

Angel I think you gave me your cold or cholera...I am sick.

Is it just me, or are some NFL coaches the biggest sore losers ever?

Coughlin shook Del Rio's hand on the run. If Del Rio didn't hold on to him, he wouldn't have stopped at all. Two weeks ago, Belichick wanted nothing to do with a postgame handshake with Mangini. These guys are such babies sometimes.

Last night, Marty Schottenheimer and Mike Shanahan met at midfield after the game and spoke for about 10-15 seconds. It's not much, but it's a nice move by both of them. These other guys make me sick.

Besides I'm afraid of exorcism's.. I do NOT like pea soup.

With the Giants losing this game they are in a virtual tie in the division. Amazing. But they win the tiebreaker by a mile with a 3-0 division record.

If the season were to end this minute the Giants would have one of the wild cards.

oops that should have been exorcism without the apostrophe.

Yes, Mark. That is something I have observed. Does it happen in baseball too? I rarely see past the final pitch.

I make a very good pea soup, lots of ginger and garlic. YUM!

Vince, my main problem with the Giants is that I just don't think Eli is good enough yet to lead them anywhere. I'll take Hasselbeck/Alexander, Delhomme/Smith and the Bears defense before I take Eli/Tiki.

No, Angel, but it's not a tradition after a baseball game for the coaches to meet on the field. As many hard battles as guys like Gibbs and Parcells have had against each other, they would never disrespect one another that way.

There is ginger and garlic in that soup?

I hate peas. Period.

Its the insides.. the texture of mashed potato but the taste of UGH.

By the way, here are my predictions for MVP on Tuesday:

1) Jeter

2) Morneau

3) Ortiz

4) Dye

5) Santana

6) Mauer

7) Thomas

8) Pudge

9) Thome

10) Damon

I invented my own recipe for pea soup. I always loved peas but for health reasons as well as taste I make all my own soups (low salt). So I make split pea soup with lots of flavor but zero salt.

11. Nick Green

Belichik is the mentor to Eric Mangini. They talk often during the season. What you see on the field does not reflect their relationship.

Hmm okay. I see it a lot in the Little League games, but I have never seen it at MLB level.
Its never a bad thing to show a healthy respect for your opponent and good sportsmanship even when beaten, after all both teams are out there trying to win.

Well, I need to go to sleep and wonder how Angel gave me her disease. Good night.

LOL.. good old Nick Green.

I love soup, but you're right - most of the shelf brands have wayyy too much salt in them.

Ugh. I hope you dont feel as bad as I do. I soldier on and go to work unless i can't drag myself out of bed. One day i'm really going to pay for that. I blame my mother. She sent us to school with the beginning stages of chicken pox, lol. (she didnt know until the school sent us home)

Did Sam stomp off? Sheesh. I'd feel bad - except for the poor sport comment, lol.

I am thinking this year is Jeter's year. He has been deserving other years, but I think this year is his year. *crosses fingers*

Okay Nyquil kicking in. Good night.

Sam, you root for the Yankees and Cowboys and you're not from New York or Dallas? Way to go out on a limb there, buddy ;) Do you also root for Microsoft? Anyway I am just an angry Giants fan here, poor showing tonight. Looks like the 12/3 game will be make or break for both teams, the way it should be, you can bet I'll be at the Meadowlands early getting ready for that one. Although all the Gaints have to do is win one out of their three remaining division games and finish with the same record as the cowboys and they'll win the division, which if you look at the schedule for both seems pretty likely they'll end up tied. But strange things seem to happen in the NFL.

Interesting statistical analysis of Derek Jeter's year on the Was Watching blog.

While I do not understand the meaning of all of the stats, and while I do not buy into the validity of all the statistics of sabermetrics, this listing shows him at or near the top in several categories.

http://www.waswatching.com/archives/2006/11/derek_jeters_mv.html

Angel!!! Stop getting us all sick on this blog... I am coming down with it too.

I actually rooted for the Cowboys to beat the Colts on Sunday.
Posted by: paul1040@aol.com | November 21, 2006 12:04 AM

Aaaaaaahhhhh!! My eyes!!!

To the Cowgirls fan on here: Why would you expect to come to a *New York* Yankees blog during football season and not get ripped? Everybody outside of Texas hates the Dallas Cowgirls, it's that simple. And to whoever posted that they act just like S*x fans, I couldn't agree more. The obsession with the Giants, Eagles and Redskins is just laughable.

Even Jesus hates the Dallas Cowboys!

Anyhoo, I am so nervous for the MVP I don't even know what to do with myself til it's announced! (Supposed to be packing and cooking to go home for Thanksgiving)

Here are my MVP predictions:

1) Jeter

2) Morneau

3) Dye

4) Nick Green

5) Farnsworth

6) Bruney

7) Farnsworth

8) Bruney

9) Nick Green

10) Damon

Its not fair to compare other players to Derek Jeter since he's known to be a jedi.

Mussina's deal is pending a physical.

Question to the blog. With as many players as Scott Boras represents, how does he make time to negotiate for all of them? He even represents Ian Kennedy the first round draft pick the Yankees signed. If he's representing big league players, minor league players, and players from Japan, it seems like he would not have enough time to negotiate with all of them. The most common theory is that Scott Boras is actually a machine thats programmed to shoot out unreasonable contracts. Outside of that, I have no idea how he does it.

Fernando: It is not how many players he represents that determines his workload but how many of his clients are involved in transactions, particularly FA transactions this year that determines his work load. I think that would be no more than 10 to 15 per offseason. That doesn't sound like a lot of work to me given the kind of money he makes.

I used to agree with people who said the yankees are responsible for driving up prices of FAs, though I did not think it was wrong. Not any more. This offseason, when it was VERY obvious to everybody that the yankees wouldn't spend a penny on anything but pitching the prices of position players have been ridiculously high. Which proves that it is not JUST the yankees. In the last few years everybody that had a need AND the money spent it. Texas (ARod), Mets (Beltran, Pedro), Redsox (Manny, Schilling, Matsuzaka), Cubs (Lee, Soriano, Ramirez) etc just to name a few. But ONLY the yankees took the blame. Anybody know why?

Yeah, but think about how much time it takes to really negotiate. The Matsuzaka deal alone looks like it will drag, and then he needs to go find Barry Zito a deal. Negtiations take a lot of time. But you're right in saying that he makes the money to make it worthwhile. I wonder what he does during the season when there's less negotiating that needs to happen.

Anyone wanna hear something amusing? The Mets just signed Moises Alou, ostensibly to replace Cliff Floyd?! LOL...what's the difference?! Isn't a trip to the DL basically pending either way?

Aaaaand, for some even FUNNIER news...the S*x signed JD Drew! Aaaahahahahahahahahaa...

What do you guys think abt the idea of trading Abreu to the Angels for one of their young arms and Shields/another young arm. We can put Melky LF and matsui in RF. Keep in mind Abreu is signed only through next season. And he will be looking for a big and long contract if he keeps up his play. Also, he waived his no trade clause for Philly to trade him to NY. So, I don't think the no trade clause is valid any more. I prefer to trade Giambi but he has a no trade clause.

do you the terms of the deal Gina?

any one else notice DJ won a gold glove, silver slugger award, hank arron award and should win the MVP? has this ever happened to anyone else before?? does this go down then as one of the best all-around seasons by anyone ever??

Not sure Vik but I'll go look. I only found out about Drew cause my one Sox fan friend just sent me an extremely unhappy e-mail when she heard the news, lol.

OK, Alou's deal with the Mets is 1 year, $8.5 mil. Not announced officially yet but rumored to be final. Nothing conclusive on JD Drew deal yet.

Oh, also, Vik-- re: your post about trading Abreu..I don't think we should do it and here's why. In 2008 Vernon Wells is a FA and I want want want him in pinstripes! So I was thinking that after next season we can trade Damon to a team looking for an OF/DH type and sign Wells as our new CF. Abreu will be a FA then and can go to any team he chooses. Then our 08 OF could be Melk in RF, Wells in center and Matsui in left. After 08, Matsui's deal will be up and Tabata will probably be ready, thus giving us an awesome OF of Melky/Wells/Tabata.

Gina, I am not a Cowboy fan. I wanted the Cowboys to beat the Colts because I am a Patriot fan and the Colts were previously undefeated. The Pats were not able to beat them when they met so I hoped someone else would. This time it was the Cowboys.

It will be hard to trade Damon. I am sure he'll have a huge fan base in NYY land if he already doesn't have one. He has the talent and his effort is never lacking. I like Wells too. But not as much as I like Matsui, Damon or Melky. And how can we be sure that we can sign Wells? And the market for good or decent offense minded OF is so hot now, we can't lose by trading one.

Yes, I know why. Everybody has a jealous hatred of the Yankees. They paint us to be the bad guys, but in reality they want to be us. It goes with the territory of owning 26 world championships. Everyone's angry that when the history of baseball is written hundreds of years from now, the Red Sox, the Cubs, the Mets, the White Sox etc., are gonna be mentioned as a side story to the Yankees absolute dominance.

Trading Damon's a bad idea.

Oh I know you're not a fan of the Evil Ones Paul! Thats why that hurt my eyes--LOL. When I said "to the Cowgirl fan" I was talking about Sam who always comes here w/the typical Cowgirl fan smack-talking.
I had been waiting for the Colts to lose too..would have been happy had it been to any other team but the Cowgirls!

Anyway, here's a joke I know a Pats fan will appreciate:

Q: How do you stop the Colts winning streak?

A: Start the playoffs.

Heh :)

Gina, Matsui and Damon are signed through 2009. Damon has a partial no trade clause. Matsui total no trade.

No way the Yankees would spend the money for Wells. That will be a megadeal and cost a draft choice.

As for the MVP race, who knows what will happen. I posted a rant earlier on the Newsday blog.

http://weblogs.newsday.com/sports/baseball/yankees/blog/2006/11/predictions_2.html

Ahh, see I like Wells a LOT. Always been a big fan of his; he is one of the most well-rounded players in the majors right now, IMO. But you're right that we can't just assume he will sign with us when he becomes a FA. I'm pretty sure he wants to go to TX actually, so our offer would have to be pretty sweet (I personally think Wells is worth an obscene amount of $ tho.) But if he DOES sign with us, THEN we can trade Damon. I agree that Damon's a great player, but he is definitely not better than Wells, IMO, and by then he might be in decline and have to DH a lot anyway. And, the leadoff spot in our lineup wouldn't even suffer as I believe Melky will be able to lead off by then.

Ohh I thought Matsui and Damon were only signed through 08. OK well that messes up my plan a little but it's still workable!
2008...Abreu gone. We can sign Wells as a FA and pay Damon to waive his NTC like the Phillies did with Abreu. As long as we're sending Damon to a good team, I think he'll go along with it. Then in 08 we have Melky/Wells/Matsui, with Tabata hopefully ready to come up in case of injury. Then, in 2009, Matsui can be the regular DH.

I know Wells will cost a fortune, but I think he is worth every red cent!

I agree that Vernon Wells is absolutely one of the top players in the game right now. Not sure he would fit in the Yankee plans.

But then I thought and hoped Beltran was in the Yankee future and that never happened.

Wells is amazing, but I still want Damon to retire a Yankee.

Giambi has a full no trade clause through 2008 and there is a 2009 option.

2007 $21 million ($3 million more than 2006)

2008 $21 million

2009 $22 million or $5 million buyout

I just cannot believe that deal for someone unable to play 1B.

As long as Giambi can give us those homeruns, I don't care how much they pay him. With Sheffield gone, we're really relying on him and A-Rod to be the majority of our offense. That is unless of course we can trade for Mark Teixiera.

I hoped that about Beltran too. And I'm *still* surprised that the Yanks didn't make more of a run at him. I guess they saw something they didn't like. But in the end it's worked out for the best, as Damon's presence on our team has been very positive. (I still don't think that precludes trading him though!)

I really like Damon's mettle and have been so impressed by him in every aspect of his game.

The Red Sox organization really showed little decency in retaining him. For them it is all about money, always has been.

They call the Yankees the Evil Empire but they are the ruthless ones. Look at Bronson Arroyo. They talked him into signing at a discount and had no intention of keeping him.

Unscrupulous organization.

They showed that right here in Boston driving out many mom and pop small business people in the area around Fenway to make it their own little Disney World where they controlled all the shops and food sold not just inside but also outside the park.

Ysnks have a 2008 option on Abreu for $16 million with a $2 million buyout.

If he performs this year as he did last I think the option is worth picking up or renegotiating.

He is one year older than Soriano, I think, and has many of the same tools, except he strikes out less and hits fewer homeruns.

Ok. So we have Giambi for 2 more years. We should get him to waive his no trade to go to the Angels. I think he will. Isn't he from CA?

Yep, Boston screwed Arroyo over bad and now they are doing the same thing to Nixon, their last home grown player. What really kills me is, Sox fans aren't even upset he is leaving. They say, oh we love Trot but he can't stay healthy. OK.. and Curt Schilling can? Manny? Kapler? Clement?
Can you imagine Yankee fans reacting that way to, say, Bernie going to another team? "Oh we love him, but don't let the door hit you on the way out?" Jeez.

Soriano compared to Abreu? I can't say I agree. They're two extremely different players.

I said some of the same tools, not the same players. One is a free swinger and one is patient at the plate.

How about we sign Loretta to play 1B? Anybody like the idea?

Phillies are looking at Bernie.

I wish there were a way to bring Bernie back, but I don't see it. Kevin Thompson is a more complete player today. And Giambi is useless other than at DH, and then only in streaks.

Giambi had some massive months this year. He was 2nd on the team in RBI and most of those were over 3 months.

NO to Loretta. Type A free agent. We would lose a draft choice.

Andy Phillips can do the job and I would only replace him with Teixeira. I would not sign a free agent that costs the team a draft choice unless we were talking about a great acquisition and I do not see one yet.

Things will change in December when some players are non tendered and refused arbitration and there will be a few more free agents.

Is Matsuzaka a type A free agent?

Today's news that I've read:

Yanks would take Pettitte back if he wants to a) come back and b) come back to NY. Personally, I think it's Houston or nothing for Andy, and Yanks aren't gonna wait around for him. Expect Yanks to make an offer for Lilly soon and if that fails, to pursue Meche.

I expect the Red Sox to go after and sign Julio Lugo. He has been on their wish list for a while, and Bosox lost Alex Gonzalez to Cincy.

We will see what happens, but there are rumors not only of a close AL MVP vote, but also of a possible tie (only happened once--1979, Keith Hernandez and Willie Stargell. Hernandez had more 1st place votes that year 10 to 4 for Stargell (Winfield, SD, 3rd place had 4). Voting was really split that year...those are 18 votes out of 24....the others who received a 1st place vote that year were---2 for Ray Knight, 1 for Joe Niekro, 1 for Kent Tekulve, 1 for Gary Carter and 1 for Bill Madlock---Carter and Madlock finished 17th and 18th in the voting, showing how fractured the vote was). Now, 14 points goes for a 1st place vote. Madlock's 1st place vote was the ONLY vote he got, and Carter had a 1st place vote and a 10th place vote and that was the only votes he got!)

More effing spam in the inbox. GRRR.

No. Matsuzaka doesn't cost any compensation. The posting bid was enough.

Andy Phillips
Batting:

AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI BB HBP SO SB CS AVG OBP SLG OPS

246 30 59 11 3 7 29 15 0 56 3 2 .240 .281 .394 .676

Fielding:

GP GS INN TC PO A E DP FPCT

113 54 600.0 648 611 29 8 63 .988

Gaimbi Fielding:

1040 1021 8613.2 9264 8760 431 73 815 .992

I dont think AP is much of an upgrade over Giambi. He strikes out a lot. His on base percentage is atrocious. I still like him because he is a life time yankee. But to say he is replaceable only by Texeira is overstating.

Yeah, I don't see it either. Bernie coming back, that is. The way I see it, as long as Mike Myers is in the bullpen, the Yanks need to carry an extra pitcher since Myers can only get 2 outs tops. Couple that with Melky as the 4th outfielder who needs and deserves as much playing time as possible, and there doesn't seem to be room with Bernie.
It bugged me out when he filed for free agency tho b/c I always thought with certainty he'd retire if the Yanks didn't have a spot for him. However, I think the Phillies are the one team I could handle him going to, cause then I could go see him all the time and maybe even finally get my guitar signed as I have been dreaming of for years!

It will still break my heart to see him in any other uniform though. Gawd I heart Bernie.

In 1960, Maris beat Mantle by 3 points for the MVP despite Mickey getting more 1st place votes, 10-8.

In 1961, Maris beat Mickey by 4 points for the MVP. The 1st place voting that year was 7 for Roger, 6 for Mickey, and 5 votes went to Jim Gentile of the Orioles.

www.baseballreference.com

OMG, Andy Phillips and were born on the same day of the year.

*Andy Phillips and myself

And re: Andy Pettitte. I think that if the Yanks CAN convince him to sign a 1 year deal, he should be the top FA priority. It would be a favor to us from him only meant to tide us over until the FAs improve in 2008, but Andy loves us, so I think he might do it! I think his wife is the main obstacle but maybe she could be persuaded to deal if it was only for a year.
If Pettitte doesn't work out then sign Lilly. If Lilly doesn't work out then make Proctor a starter..but no to Meche under any circumstance!

I'm jealous Vik, I wish I shared a birthday with a better baseball player than *gag* Derek Lowe!

Lets have Andrew kidnap Mrs Pettitte. We can rent a limo because she's Andy's wife.

lol Gina, AP is the lucky man. Not me. lol.

I don't think Laura Pettitte wants Andy back in NY. I heard rumors...

Lunch...back later when we hear the award announcement...

Matsuzaka was not an MLB player so there is no draft choice issue.

The Cubs are persuing Lugo also as well as Cliff Floyd.

There are rumors of Manny for Michael Young of Texas.

If it is Manny for Michael Young straight up, I'll be very happy. Young is a very good player. But he is no Manny.

Ah, well.. at least I also share a birthday with Marilyn Monroe..that's a bit more comforting :)

Yes, Andrew NEEDS to kidnap Laura Pettitte! Why must she be such a playa hater?! And I can totally volunteer to, umm, keep Andy warm in her absence :D :D

And where will the cubs play Lugo. SS. I think Izturis is a very good SS.

Oh and I heard the same rumors Mike. Even if they're true, Laura is naive to think the same thing won't happen in Houston. After all the Astros DO still go on the road, don't they?
To paraphrase Eric Cartman (without the profanities) Laura Pettitte needs to go into the kitchen and make us some pie...and keep her nose out of Andy's career!!

Giambi is an awful fielder despite any stats presented. He cannot go get the ball as I have seen Andy Phillips do and he cannot throw the ball.

We knew he was a below average 1B player when he was signed. He was signed because he was a terrific hitter and the Yanks figured he would become DH and they had Nick Johnson coming up soon to be the permanent 1B.

I don't know how anyone who may have seen more than 1 Yankee game this year could suggest that Giambi and Phillips are about equal in fielding.

The sox will end up with lugo who will probbaly play very well for them but they will not utilize his talents correctly. Drew will be injured before July. Matsuzaka will win 16 or 17 games with an era near 4. And most importantly about 120 million dollars will go to no superstars, only cogs.

There is a real advantage to being closer to home so I can respect Pettitte's family's position.

He was a great Yankee. But he is not the solution now. I fear he would not be that good and his memory would be tarnished by what he would do in 2007 and beyond if signed.

Plus he would cost a draft choice.

They are not about equal in fielding Paul. What I was saying was that AP is not sufficient. The upgrade in fielding doesn't compensate for the drop in offense.

ahh nothing like 9 spam emails in the inbox on top of everything that gets filtered into the bulk folder.

The Giants when healthy are the 2nd best team in the NFC, the problem is they will probably have to play wildcard weekend and depending on when players get healthy it may be on the road so they may be playing themselves into a trap.

hahahaaha the sox are in the wine and dine process of getting Matsuzaka to sign, but what I found funny was to "wow" him they took him to dinner in southern california.

Not saying much about the city of Boston.

Despite the fact I love the city of Boston. It is almost in the same galaxy as NY. Paul might shoot me, but I think Boston and Miami are close but I would give Boston a slight edge....More of a historical and sports atmosphere.

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/stats/fielding?groupId=7&season=2006&seasonType=2&split=79&sortOrder=true&sortColumn=fieldingPct&qualified=0

He is not even in the top half of 1B fielding wise. I would rather have somebody like Mark Loretta or Miguel Cairo playing 1B than a mediocre at best offensively AND a below average (in the majors) fielder.

Boston definitely wins in the music department, too, seeing how Newbury Comics is the best record store that ever was, is or will be. I love Boston, myself...during the offseason! Miami definitely wins for multiculturalism tho.

Boston is a smaller, cleaner, more civilized New York. Miami is a living **** hole that should be leveled or used for nuclear testing.

Bernie absolutely and positively is NOT allowed to wear ANY OTHER uniform. I am not allowing it. He WILL be grounded if that happens. And I mean it - no phone privileges either!

Phillips was a ROOKIE, and only had 226 at bats.

He is not great but based on his minor league stats and what I saw from him from time to time I think he has a lot of future potential and will get better.

Giambi will not get any better. He will continue to decline and face more injuries, most of which were from attempting, albeit poorly, to play 1B.

Infact there are only four 1B in the AL who played more than 20 games at 1B and have a worse fielding percentage than AP. And he is not even the 40th best hitting 1B. There is a reason he is a career backup Paul. He played over his head for a little bit last season. That doesn't warrant a starting job. I agree chemistry is important. But chemistry ALONE is not enough. If it were, my friends and myself would form a team and win the championship.

Giambi will not get any better. I want to get rid of him if we can. But Phillips is not the answer.

Phillips did seem to hit a lot better when he was playing everyday, too. I'd be willing to give him a chance to start at 1st next year--especially if we re-sign Miggy, who could back him up if he struggles-- but for whatever reason the Yanks seem to have absolutely no faith in him....so I don't think he will ever have a regular starting job in NY.

lol Paul, I agree boston is smaller and cleaner, but I don't like the fact it is smaller and I step on what isn't clean in NY so I don't really care so much. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, I personally find enormous skycrapers wonderful to look at, moreso than beautiful landwork and old fashioned buildings. Like I said though, there are great things in both cities. As for civilized? If you look like you blend in and don't make people late by holding hands and forming a line on a sidewalk, New Yorkers can be the most useful and friendly people on the planet. Everytime I have needed subway information anybody was willing to lend a helping hand, I guess it is the vibe you give off, if you are confident, competant and have a minor understanding of how things operate, they are willing to help....Then of course there are some insane people which you will find anywhere....and the poor people are annoying too but the city is 20 million people you can't have perfection.

When is this godforsaken award going to be announced? I am driving myself absolutely bat**** crazy waiting!

Phillips hit better for about 2 weeks, that is called a hot streak and then he severely cooled down for the next month, hence why he hit .240 or whatever. It is a huge misconception to diagnose him as a better hitter hitting everyday because he had both a hot streak and a slump...but the slump was much longer.

There is a reason AP was not up from the minors. The Yanks wanted a name player at every position.

The only reason any of the rookies got to the Yankees was because of injuries before Cashman had total control. Wang, Cano, Melky only came to the Yankees because of injuries.

Andy Phillips would have started on any other team long before but the Tampa faction wanted a star player like Tony Womack at every position so they could sell more tickets.

And frankly that is all some fans want: star power.

I prefer good ballplayers who will become stars.

I am sure Andy will be one of them, but only if given a chance.

I can see phillips at his absolute best hitting 20 hrs and driving in 75 and playing an above average defense and hitting around .275. His ceiling is not tremendously high and I don't even know if he will ever reach that level because he is what, 30 already?

Even beyond wanting a name player at every position, for some reason it seems like a LOT of people in the organization are REALLY anti-Andy. I don't get it. I even think I remember that during ST Joe Torre said that he was "a bench player at best." I have never known Joe to be snarky like that before, and was most unhappy about it!

Boston is a disorganized mess, filled with drunken, class-less brutes. I hate that city more than any other city. Probably because it is the most disorganized city I have ever traveled to. I know because I live in Mass., and used to travel to Boston once a month. Never again.

No I remember Torre sticking up for Andy. He used to always say that Andy, if given more playing time, would prove to be a big league hitter.

I don't think phillips would ever become a star. I don't even think he has 20/75/.275 potential. If he could do that I'd take him in a heartbeat at first. But, I don't think the only reason he didn't get promoted to the majors before now is because the yankees wanted names at every position. Phillips is what 30 years old? When he was 24, 25, 26 the yankees were still playing players like nick johnson, karim garcia, david delucci, etc. Not stars, not big names,but quality ball players. Phillips just isn't a quality major league offensive player. He's adequate defensively, but that is it.
-Ben

I am not wanting a star at every position, Paul. I am ok with Miggy at 1B or somebody else from the minors that is very good defensively and does JUST the little things. AP is just average defensively and he cant hit for power or average. He is not even a contact hitter. The only thing that AP brings is the attitude. Just that is not enough. If he improved his defense, I will be okay with the lack of offense.

LOL Fernando you want an organized city? New York is one of those with a grid pattern of streets. Even in Queens you can find a location based on the address because the address is coded to tell you the cross street.

Boston has roads originally created by cow paths.

The drunken classless brutes are what we call the governor and legislature.

But the city has a lot of charm, a lot of tradition, so much to see. Creative architecture and an engaging mix of the old and the new.

The only things Boston really lacks is good consistent pizza (it is good only in some places), good Chinese food, and the Yankees.

But I was actually spoiled living in NY by tghe pizza and Chinese food which is good at almost every mom and pop place you can find.

Just heard a rumor on way home from work from local talk sports radio that Jeter and Morneau (sp) will share the MVP award today...anybody hear that?

We do have a star at every position whether they're homegrown or not, and we will continue to at first if we bring in Mark Teixiera. However, I am a fan of sticking to what works so we should bring back Tino Martinez.

Phillips was a 29 yr old rookie. He had a tough year last year as he also faced the possibility of losing his wife. He was flying back home every break to be with her.

She had improvement in health but that distraction had to take its toll.

And whether he was 29 or 109, he was still a rookie. Not a large sample of his play on the big stage.

Nick Johnson should really be the 1B player there now. Another bonehead trade.

No CO-MVP!!!! That would be ****.

Who did we get for Nick Johnson?

As for Boston, yes it was never a planned city, and quite frankly it should have stayed that way. In reality it has its nice features, but I hate to drive through it.

5 minutes to go. See my previous posts about the rumor of a tie...the 1979 vote, and the close 1960 and 1961 votes...

Nick Johnson, Randy Choate, and Juan Rivera to Montreal for Javier Vazquez.

JUST IN ..

JETER SCREWED

MORNEAU MVP

ouch.

WHAT THE F!U!C!K ???? MORNEAU!?!?!

Morneau won

I had a feeling late last night that would happen

That is miserable.

Nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!

BULLS*HIT!!

f*** Morneau.

By and large sportswriters are a pathetic and sorry lot.

Anti-NY bias was a factor and some bonehead allegiance to ARod.

I tell you as a Yankee fan this team needs to get rid of that distraction.

You know what, I don't care anymore. Jeter does his thing every season, and when he delivers the next world series championship to this team, people will see who the most valuable player over the last 10 years has been. Forget Morneau, forget Ortiz, forget Dye, and forget the sports writers who voted Morneau in. Jeter's too gangster for them all.

Lies from mlb.com:
"Justin Morneau, who lifted the Twins into the playoffs in his second full season"

....He lifted the Twins into the playoffs? Mauer and Santana didnt help at all I suppose. GOD WHAT F*C*KING BULLS*HIT!! F*** the BBWA, f*** the MLB, f*** the Twins, and f*** Morneau! May he hit .197 next year.

I'm taking a nap.

Minnesota's Justin Morneau edged the New York Yankees' Derek Jeter to win the American League's Most Valuable Player Award on Tuesday.

Morneau received 15 first-place votes, eight seconds, three thirds and two fourths for 320 points in voting by a panel of the Baseball Writers' Association of America. Jeter got 12 firsts, 14 seconds, one fourth and one sixth for 306 points.

Boston's David Ortiz was third with 193 points, followed by Oakland's Frank Thomas (174), Chicago's Jermaine Dye (156), Minnesota's Joe Mauer (116) and Twins pitcher Johan Santana (114), who received the other first-place vote.

Morneau hit .321 with 34 homers and 130 RBIs, helping the Twins win the AL Central for the fourth time in five years. Jeter batted .344 with 14 homers and 97 RBIs, finishing three points behind Mauer, who became the first catcher to win an AL batting title.

Red Sox radio is celebrating that Jeter did not get the MVP. They are not said Ortiz lost; they are happy Jeter lost. (WEEI, Boston)

May every single employee of WEEI choke on a turkey bone to commemorate our wonderful Thanksgiving holiday.

F off boston

The vote shows you how totally incompetent the writers are.

Mauer and Santana finishing behind Frank Thomas is completely insane.

Boston is such a second place team. I remember when Mussina pitched the one hitter, and they celebrated because they weren't no hit. Its sad to watch a team that wants to win, but is supported by a city that has a second place mentality engrained in them.

what more does jete have to do to show what an amazing player he is and how he would be the MVP of ANY team he played on? Does he need to single-handedly build the new Yankee Stadium? Sell hot dogs in between turning double plays? Take over the Yankee Stadium announcements AND be the beat writer for both the Yankees and the Mets? I mean, get serious. No other player in the game represents all that is good and right in baseball today than Derek Jeter.

The thing is, I know he's going to come out and congratulate morneau and be the good guy, but i am sure when he goes home tonight, he will call up mama and papa jete and say, "gee, i really thought i had this one."

He's our MVP, that's for sure.

And I love how these ******** writers complain about the Steroid Era but then in the same breath continue to give all the love to these overrated sluggers...thus perpetuating the very same cancer they claim to hate. **** them, they love the roidheads, it creates more media buzz and $$$.

Typical Boston...losers.

Who the F*** voted Jeter 6th???

Whoever voted him 6th, I bet they work for NESPN in some capacity!!

the Monster is green for a reason....all that Yankee Envy.

Yankeefan1, great question. That writer should be fired on account of not knowing anything about baseball.

That writer should be forced to retire, not only from baseball writing, but at life! Clearly the pud is a miserable failure at both.

I think there were two factors:
1. anti-NY Yankee factor

2. somehow feeling it would not support ARod and he won last year.

Anti-NY bias. They F'd Mo last year, they F Jeter this year.

Girardi was deserving, but don't think that there wasn't any anti-NY (mets) votes there regarding Willie.

Take it away from some idiot know-it-all writers. Believe it or not, in 1967, Yaz (Triple Crown) wasn't unanimous. One voter voted for Cesar Tovar. What a joke.

People have to see Jeter EVERY DAY.

and I totally agree...Jeter had no Sheff or Matsui but Morneau had Mauer and Santana.

But Jeter didn't babysit, so...

Where does it say someone voted Jeter 6th??

Its from yankeefan1's earlier post.

Like that one idiot who didn't like Jeter's 14 hr...

I guess he would like to take the MVP away from all the pitchers who won it? Not to mention Ichiro (8 hr in 2001) or Rizzuto (7 hr in 1950??)...how about Maury Wills in 1962?

Patrick and Olberman are stunned Jeter lost. Both also thought Pujols should have won yesterday...

If reason number 2 is true (and I believe it quite likely is) all the more reason that ARod needs to go NOW. Time to put an end to all the division and distraction he causes.

And if there is a third factor it is that these idiot writers prefer the overrated slugging roidheads. The same guys who can't do **** in the playoffs cause there is no slugging against great pitching.

As long as writers continue to fellate the roidhead sluggers, players will continue to take roids. It's that simple. So, the writers cannot be surprised when no one believes they are anti-steroids. They obviously love the juice almost as much as Barroid Bonds does.

See the 2:10 post...it says it there in the story.

abysmal. i'd like to know what FIVE players that writer would put in front of jeter

If Toriiiii Hunter runs his mouth about this at all then I will make it my business to sit by the visitors dugout at a Twiiins/Yanks game this year so that I can make him cry like the little b**** he is!

Jeter got 1 4th place vote and 1 6th place vote.

Really the MVP vote is tarnished.

Same with the Cy Young last year.

Sure, Morneau is a terrific player and I guess I would prefer he beat Jeter rather than Javy Lopez. But the vote is aload of crapola.

Alright, I rarely do this so everyone take notice. Stop blaming A-Rod for Jeter not getting the MVP. I read the same stupid article on SI that blamed Jeter for A-Rod's lack of performance, but instead of getting mad at A-Rod how about you get mad at the stupid sports writer who actually beleived that garbage.

By and large sportswriters are a pathetic and sorry lot.

Anti-NY bias was a factor and some bonehead allegiance to ARod.

I tell you as a Yankee fan this team needs to get rid of that distraction.

Posted by: paul1040@aol.com | November 21, 2006 02:06 PM

See Paul? You are really obsessed with Alex Rodríguez. Do not put you in the same level as those pathetic spotrwriters you're referring to. I'm sure you're MUCH better than them. No comparison at all. So do not let your anti-Alex feelings put you to where you don't belong. I can't believe you REALLY think Derek didn't receive the award he deserved because of A-Rod. You can't be serious

I'm not blaming ARod, I am blaming the stupid writers who let all this supposed "division" between Jeter and ARod influence their decision. But what I am saying is that if there is gonna be all this nonsensical buzz about the rift between ARod and Jeter (and the nonsensical buzz will obviously continue no matter what)...it is too big a distraction to the team and it needs to stop being one. The only way to make it a non issue is by trading ARod.

Jorge, I am not the one obsessed with ARod. Did you read the article I referenced above where Ken Davidoff said he would not vote for Jeter because of his handling of ARod.

Don't blame me. It is ARod, all ARod, 24 hours of media obsession with ARod. Let him go away and let them obsess all they want.

Then the Yankees can focus on baseball.

I really do not think there is a division between ARod and Jeter of any measure. But the news media is so obsessed with it and writers who vote make their decisions based on that moronic perception.

Why? Oh why must we endure this ARod garbage constantly?

Paul do you mind posting another link to the Davidoff article? Could not find it in recent comments. Davidoff is about to get some serious hate mail from me and I recommend that everyone who finds his 'reasoning' as ludacris as I do should write to him...

The ARod obsession is all consuming. But Jorge, you seem not to want to understand my position.

I am not obsessing on him. I am observing that he is the center of the obsession of the media.

You think that is NOT a distraction? Please explain.

http://www.newsday.com/sports/baseball/yankees/ny-spkdjeter194982587nov19,0,1224671.column?coll=ny-yankees-print

Ok, Paul. Sorry if I'm missunderstanding this stuff. But if those pathetics sportwriters are obsessed with him, I think it's not Alex's fault.
And as for clubhouse, we know they're all professional ball players. I don't think all that bull **** they write abou Alex disturbs the chemistry. So, I don't find any reason why we MUST trade Alex, as you suggested.

Exactly. WE know that Jeter and ARod are both too professional and hardworking to let such division disturb the team, but the media continues obsessing over it to the point where it has become such a distraction that Jeter gets screwed out of an award he very much deserved. And as a Jeter fan I cannot hang with that. Said media obsession was also a big distraction during playoffs. Because it needs to stop, someone needs to go, and that someone is obviously not going to be Jeter who plays Gold Glove defense and has led the Yankees to 4 championships. At this point the ARod stuff is so overblown that him staying on the team is a disservice not only to the Yanks but to himself as a player and a man.

Jorge, here is a quote from the article should you continue to blame me for the absolute disaster of your hero Arod.
_________________________

But if I had a vote this year, it would have been cast for Minnesota's Justin Morneau. Because power still rules, and because we all know that as much as Jeter did to help the Yankees prevail in 2006, he could have done more.

Yes, that is a reference to the Alex Rodriguez stuff. But let's save that for later.

This morning the paper had the numbers there to compare one player versus another. The only player, once you subtract homeruns from runs batted in, whose RBI number was higher than Jeter's was Morneau. That, coupled with the fact that a Yankee won the prior year (A-Rod), and the Twins had that exciting late-season run, made me think that perhaps Jeter would not win. So, I'm not so much surprised as extremely disappointed.

It's pretty telling, in my mind that Morneau had 2 teammates who also received MVP votes. Ironic isn't it? If someone is MOST valuable, why should 2 other players on the same team be MOST valuable. It kind of says there were more than one valuable player on that team. Therefore, no single one was more valuable. (I know this sounds convoluted, but I think you get my meaning.) Basically, Morneau had help.

Anyway, Jeter was the most valuable player because of his everyday, day-in, day-out, contributions to his team. And no one but Jeter and A-Rod really know the true nature of their relationship, so I doubt that was a factor and it shouldn't be. There've been many MVP's who weren't the best of friends with a teammate.

Don't blame me. It is ARod, all ARod, 24 hours of media obsession with ARod. Let him go away and let them obsess all they want.

Then the Yankees can focus on baseball.

Posted by: paul1040@aol.com | November 21, 2006 02:40 PM

I'm sure Yankee players are focused in baseball. With Alex IN the clubhouse.

Phil Taylor of Sports Illustrated wrote a similar article blaming Jeter for ARod's poor performance in the playoffs.

ARod was not responsible, according to Taylor, but Jeter was.

How crazy is this.

When else in baseball history was one star player blamed for the continued poor play of the most overrated player in baseball history.

The distraction, the hype, the divisiveness...he must go.

Wow...Davidoff writes, "Because power still rules, and because we all know that as much as Jeter did to help the Yankees prevail in 2006, he could have done more"

Could have done more??? Like steroids maybe?? Then he would have enough "power" to "rule" enough so that he could get the MVP he deserves?

Uuuuugh I am so ***** mad right now. I NEVER as long as I live want to hear another sportswriter bemoan the use of steroids. THEY OBVIOUSLY LOVE THE STUFF!!!

Seriously...Jeter is not ARod's mother. That Jeter could be blamed for ARod's failures is not fair to either of these men, but it's most unfair to Jeter since it has absolutely nothing to do with him.

Paul, believe. Alex is not my hero. My only hero is Spiderman. If you ask me which one of them I would prefer, I'd answer immediately I prefer Jeter. It's just that I disagree with you and Gina when you both say that Alex should be traded for the Yankees good health. I don't buy it. No way

I need to see the Daily News and Post tomorrow.

If they were pissed last year when Mo got screwed, I can only imagine them now.

I want to hear what Steinbrenner has to say about all this.

Jeter's no MVP
Captain's lack of leadership sank Yankees' hopes

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2006/writers/phil_taylor/11/01/arod.jeter/index.html

Spiderman would be an awesome 3B, Jorge.

And of course I agree in that just a stupid can believe A-Rod's playoff struggle is because of Jeter. That is only acceptable if it comes from a 3 year old little boy.

Is Spiderman a free agent? He would even be worth the draft choice.

Once I saw that Davidoff had written that if Jeter had hit 34 homers, his clubhouse conduct (read: lack of holding ARod's hand) wouldn't matter, I got so mad that I had to close up the window and couldn't finish reading it. I think I need a nice stiff drink before I even begin to tackle Phil Taylor's comparable idiocy.

Nice points...esp. about the two-faced "love the power"/"hate the steroids" argument...

Also the fact that Morneau had two teammates in the top 10 of the vote while NONE of Jeter's teammates made the top 10.

Spiderman could play every position..and pitch. And Moose could make more jokes about Spiderman logos and Chico's Bail Bonds patches. Maybe Spidey is in fact the answer to all our woes! :D

Spiderman would be an awesome 3B, Jorge.

Posted by: paul1040@aol.com | November 21, 2006 02:56 PM

Paul. You're the one and only. Great to have a friend like you. We can have disagreements, but I can't imagine a world without them. Besides, I agree with you in most of your comments. But when you say A-Rod..............

I would like to hear it from Mark whether this clubhouse tension is imagined by the media or if its real.

Jorge we can disagree on issues in the game we love but that does not mean we cannot respect each other and enjoy each other's company.

Apparently Paul, A-Rod and Jeter can't do the same.

From Pete's blog:

UPDATE: The person who voted Jeter sixth was Joe Cowley, the White Sox beat writer of the Chicago Sun-Times. Jeter was .292/.393/.542 against the White Sox this season.

Good point about no other Yanks making the top 10. When I saw that BBWA picked the wrong winner I was too mad to even check if Johnny had cracked the top 10. My mom is gonna be so upset he didn't!

Speaking of Mark---he is on TV right NOW.

See the WATCH link following the links Mark posted at the top.

LOL....bitter Dye wouldn't win much, Cowley?
He is soooo going on the Andrew Kidnapping List.

Also..Pete has written before that the clubhouse tension is imagined, which is exactly what I would have thought. But whether it is real or imagined, the media is going to pretend it's real regardless b/c they think it makes a juicy story.

Other Yankees to get MVP votes:

Alex 1 5th/2 8ths/ 1 10th...13 points

Giambi 1 6th, 2 9ths...9 points

Damon 1 5th, 1 10th...7 points

Cano 1 8th...3 points

Rivera 1 9th....2 points

Wang 1 9th....2 points.

For those wondering from the above tally...Alex was 13th

Mark just said that, Mike, on the air.

Did anyone see what I wrote?

You can see Mark on the air. It is free. Follow the link at the top of the page.

Or follow this:

http://mlb.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/mlb/radio/index.jsp

Thanks Paul. I'm watching Mark and Seth

Wish I could listen.. still don't have working speakers for this new comp. unfortunately.

Then Gina, you can't hear Mark's voice. It's like watching the Flintstones ;-)

do you have a head set or something Gina? From a mp3 player or a walkman. Try them.

LOL @ Flinstones...yabba dabba Jeter got robbed!

Good call on the headphones, Vik, I'll go look for some

Call us at 800-431-0734

What about Aaron Boone as a utility player? Any thoughts?

This one's for you Paul. LOL

This one's for you Paul. LOL

Posted by: jtorresmesias@hotmail.com | November 21, 2006 03:25 PM

For those who are not watching, there was a commercial about "Boys and Girls Club of America". And you know very well who was on it. ALEX RODRIGUEZ!!!!!!!

i consider a rod and jeter like maris and mantle in 1961, I think all of the wedge between them is media related. They used to be best friends and I doubt an out of context quote in a magazine made them enemies. That doesn't seem like A rod, that doesn't seem like Jeter and regardless of who says what there is no evidence on the field that they dislike each other.

Agree with my favorite witch. Jeter was robbed!!!!!!!!!

OMG! they are talking about andrew bynum on 1st and 10 and how he is coming into his body and emerging!!!! I played rec ball with that kid! he was in my history class in 7th grade, that is awesome, I wish him the best of luck, he was always a nice kid.

I'd take back Boone in a heart beat, but that has to do with the fact that for some reason I strongly dislike Miguel Cairo. I know I know, he's a great utility guy, blah blah blah, but I just don't like him.

That's it Vince. You're right. Are you watchink Mark and Seth?

watchink? I think it's watching. Sorry

Yes I am listening, I still would be more content with A rod gone, Jorge...DON'T SHOOT ME!

sorry, busy. Not able to watch/listen...

BANG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
(Dedicated to Vince)

Absolutely disagree with you Fernando. Miguel Cairo is one of the best utility men I think.

What was that, Mark? A beer?

haha Jorge....I agree, I love miggy

Mark looks and acts like on my 21st birthday we should go out for a beer.

Absolutely disagree with you Fernando. Miguel Cairo is one of the best utility men I think.

Posted by: paul1040@aol.com | November 21, 2006 03:36 PM

I STRONGLY AGREE WITH YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

See, Paul?

looks and talks*

Boone could also be that right handed first baseman.

no, no boone!

Now im watching.

Come on Vince...no love for Aaron fuc*ing Boone?

lol he is not the solution to anything except launching off wakefield.

I think he could be a good utility man...I mean just think of the reception he'll get.

think of all the errors he had last year, 2nd to A rod, the guy is not a defensive and certainly not an offensive solution.

I tried calling the show but there was no answer. Grrrrrr.

I didn't see that one coming (Jeter not winning). But I'm not too surprised as the voting tends to lean towards sluggers (especially though who hit for avg as well).

What I did see coming is the blame Alex for Jeter not winning campaign. Its no longer Alex shouldn't be a Yankee because he had two bad off seasons, now its A-Rod shouldn't be a Yankee because Jeter didn't win MVP.

Its not Alex's fault that Jeter didn't win (unless he bribed all of the voters with some extra poker chips at his fundraiser) just like its not Jeter's fault that Alex had an off year.

~sigh

for some reason I strongly dislike Miguel Cairo.
Posted by: falejandro_student@hotmail.com| November 21, 2006 03:30 PM

*Faints* As the founder (and possible sole member, lol) of the Future Hall of Famer Miguel Cairo Fan Club, I would have to beg to differ on this one. He is def. the best utility IF in baseball... is it just something about his personality that irks you?

What if they sign him and DH him when they face Wakefield?

Aaron Boone for me is a distant third on the list of old Yankees I want back, after Lilly and Pettitte. We will always love him for 03 but Miggy is vastly superior IMO, and hasn't Boone's defense declined since leaving us? I think that is a case of let's leave well enough alone...

Now they answered...I am on hold to be on the air.

Thanks for the headphones idea Vik--it's working!
Wow I didn't know Bob Klapicsh (sp) was on here too - the Record is my hometown paper and he is my favorite columnist!

Yes! I'm listening this time, you better not have an odd voice Paul it will ruin everything.

haha Alex, i;m not sure he's worth the money for that role.

OMG Paul's on the radio! And he made a joke in the first 10 seconds! LOL

hahahaa You're voice is exactly what I thought it might be!

Occasionally, nice.

Jeez, you can tell Paul has been on the radio before.

Mike and the Mad Dog are talking with that Joe Cowley dude...

and Cowley is proving what a effing ***** he is.

They asked him about the five game sweep in Boston, and Cowley had no *******' clue what Jeter did (anyone remember the big hit to tie the game???) or for that matter, what ANY ONE DID IN THAT SERIES! This idiot who voted Jeter 6th even had Ortiz 2nd and A-Rod 5th... he even voted Frank Thomas (DH) over Jeter.

No offense to Paul or Mark or Seth...but you just had to listen to this idiot keep putting his foot in his mouth. An absolute *****.

PLEASE GIVE ME A VOTE! I know much more than that effing idiot!

I may have been on the air once or twice before...but it was weird...I was getting feedback and could not hear who was talking.

Mike call into the show and complain! everyone forgot jeter's triple too, that won the longest game in the history of baseball, he won two games late in that series.

All right...between picking up the Beatles Love cd (a good thing)and the AL MVP vote...(a bad thing)

my day is shot...

That is terrible, you can tell that voter just went based on a stats sheet.

Holy **** Cowley didnt even remember (or see) that huge hit against Timlin?! Jebus that was pretty much my highlight of the entire season lol. Can't they start quizzing these writers on general baseball knowledge before allowing them a vote?!

You know I can't say why I hate him. Maybe it was his .239 batting average, or maybe his 0 homeruns, or perhaps its the fact that he went to the Mets for more money and then came back because he wasn't any good over there. All in all, I don't know why I hate him, but I know that I could care less whether we have him or not.

Wow. **** for
i d i o t

and

m o r o n

when referring to Cowley.

My day is shot too and I hate the fact that I SHOULD be celebrating that Moose is coming back, but that great news has to be marred with this BS of Jeter getting robbed.

Also, I have to write an article for work about Howard's MVP. I'm thrilled for him, but that is going to be very difficult to write after THIS.

What do you mean my voice sounded like you thought it would.

Unfortunately I did not hear any of it and I was disconnected before I got to make fun of Seth's toupee.

Paul ... thanks for calling in! Good to talk to you.

Ohhh I had to turn it down.. can't listen to how whatever lies the Twins spin to justify Morneau's nonsensical robbing of this award.

I didn't hear it, what did Paul say?

I missed it...what'd you say on the air Paul?

I don't know for all of you when I talk online I picture based on how you talk and your age and where you are from what you probably sound like...yours happened to be pretty much dead on.

Yes, Vince. The funny (sad?) thing is that Cowley was saying numbers weren't everything, but then he would explain away his ridiculous vote by referring to all the numbers. The more he went on, the more of a horse's butt he made of himself.

The point I tried to make, not sure if I di, was that a factor in the MVP vote is the bonehead factor, and I cited writers Phil Taylor of SI and Ken Davidoff of Newsday. And then I was cut off.

Did I speak with a Boston accent?

Mike, Cowley basically admitted he is an incompetent **** unqualified to have a vote because he did not take the time to learn more about the players and looked only at the statistics.

Cut off? The old boy network wouldn't let you criticize?

BullBleep!

No, you had no evident dialect. Nor did I expect you to have one. I figured living in so many places and having visited so many players, mixed with what I know about you, you would not have an evident dialect. haha a lot more thought goes into my thinking process of other people's voices than anyone may think.

Exactly, Paul. Cowley better not get into trouble with the law. He clearly can't defend or represent himself.

places not players*

oops, I did not use a swear word. The **** replaced a word which is sometimes used to refer to a female mamamry but is also synonamous for a fool.

I hate listening to Morneau, he is just not interesting, I am switching between Mike and the Maddog and mark's show, and right now M and M is winning.

booooooooooooooob

Paul I didn't think you had a Boston accent at all.

Well, we should have been listening to Jeter...

Grrr @ Morneau, he should lose votes for being boring. Then we could do a recount and give the MVP to Jeter, who I'm sure would accept it in a much more stimulating manner!

I understand that, Vince. If you want to be a broadcast professional you pay attention to that.

You tend to develop many different voices that you use for different purposes, voice overs, on air interviews, bumpers.

Actually, a recount is sounding like a better and better idea isn't it?

I'm calling Al Gore.

lol oh good, I should be in decent shape then.

http://www.gotoquiz.com/what_american_accent_do_you_have

There's a quiz to figure out what American accent you have.

I feel like if i want to be in this field I need to gain 40 or 50 more lbs though.

Mark is a really good interviewer. He asks good questions.

For those of you listening to Mark and Seth, too bad Ron Villone didn't have a vote.

What pitcher is he interviewing? I had it turned down.

Guys I can't prove anything, but I think Matsuzaka is responsible for all of this.

Oh ok nevermind. North Jersey Villone HOLLA!

With the holiday coming up, and a sis coming in from CA, I figured not much would get done on the job search front until next Monday...

Wow. Some of the mixes on this Love CD are amazing. Within You Without You's vocals to the bass/drums of Tomorrow Never Knows? It works...just incredible.

YES! SHOUTOUT TO JERSEY! (Well, sorta.."this area"..close enough.)

EWW alex, it said Philadelphia or southern Jersey. I must have been confused by the questions because I do not say my A's anything like anyone in philly.

All Jeter had to do was show up, say "Thanks" and bring along Jessica Biel and it would be more stimulating.

That quiz actually got it right. It narrowed me down to 4 places.

I get the feeling Mark and Seth are close friends.

Haha Vince, I got "The West" and in the description it said that doesn't necessarily mean I'm from the west and I basically have no accent...I was also able to take it and make it give me a Boston accent. I was born in New Hampshire and all my family is from New England.

Mine said philly or somewhere near it, which I guess that means I don't have a midwestern, west coast or southern dialect, or new england, but I certainly do not have a philadelphian one, and I am not as "philly as a cheesesteak"

WOOOOO NORTH JERSEY!!

Sorry, I had to do it. Btw, did anyone else read this article about Matsuzaka having dinner with some Red Sox FO people? They treated him to dinner and a night on the town......in California.

Way to impress the future star who is supposed to carry the torch of your team's future! Show him NOT Boston, and maybe he'll like it better? I guess that's the logic there...

lol, 1 or two of the questions I couldn't figure out what my answer would be, so with only 13 questions I'm sure that had an impact.

hahahah swo I made the same comment earlier in the day, I also found that odd.

LOL Vince! Yeah, Philadelphians pronounce their vowels like they are choking on them. I got just plain Northeast...

I got Midland for that quiz...no surprise, I'm in PA.

Vince you have a hybrid accent, but NJ is the dominating part. But it is not just NJ. There are some other influences.

I got plain northeast, but underneath it said North Jersey, NYC, Connecticut, or RI. (RI is correct, btw) It's funny that I have been living in the Boston area for a while, and Boston was pretty low on the bar graph.

Is anybody watching mike and the maddog, what happened between seinfeld and letterman that is so insane?

I am still watching Mark and Seth.

But I am mostly watching Mark.

Which one is Mark BTW? Gruffier voice or smoother voice?

From Pete's blog:

This is what I was discussing about Cowley. Here is Pete's take:

UPDATE: Cowley just went on Mike & The Mad Dog and didn't represent the profession very well. He claimed the Yankees would have done just as well without Jeter in the lineup, that Ortiz kept the Red Sox in contention and that Ortiz had better numbers in the clutch than Jeter did. Never mind that the Red Sox were out of the race in mid-August, the Yankees played nearly all season without Sheff and Matsui and Jeter had better RISP numbers than Ortiz.

The only thing I can say is that his vote didn't change the race. I certainly can't speak for the methods every voter uses. But at least people are being held accountable.

Which one is Mark BTW? Gruffier voice or smoother voice?

gruffier, what is the seinfeld feud, I must know!

The deeper, gruffier one, Gina.

Derek Jeter: 2006 AL MVP. And I don't give a f-uck what the headlines report.

Frank Catalanatto on at 5pmish being introduced as a Ranger...

Kosmo Kramer went a racist tirade dropping the n-word several times and referring to certain historical events that were not favorable to african americans. Not a good look for him.

I didn't see Seinfeld on Letterman, but I think it has to do with Michael Richards (Kramer). Richards was doing stand-up and then went off on a racist tirade when he was heckled.

Gina, Mark is the one on the left. His voice is much deeper than Seth. You might call it rougher.

http://www.smh.com.au/news/people/kramers-racist-rant/2006/11/21/1163871369612.html

here's a link to the article.

Hmm, I don't get the picture, just the audio. I wonder why?

Here we go guys..info re. Seinfeld on Letterman.

ohhhhhhhh yeah I knew about kramer going insane, I just didn't put it together, thanks guys!

Jebus, I can't wait till it's Moose's turn to give one of these little podium speech thingies. He will be more captivating than the rest of these guys combined!

http://qqq.tmz.com/2006/11/20/kramers-racist-tirade-caught-on-tape/

Here's the video.

Gina, you needed to hit the link to watch, not to hear and you could then see them.

But now they are going to the Aramis Ramirez press conference to announce his signing from weeks ago.

Bizarre timing.

Michael Richards is apparently a fool and his career is over.

Rumor Mill has a rumor of Maroth and Thames going from Det. to St. L for Looper and Encarnacion.

ROTFL @ ARod paying for the Matsuzaka dinner!

I mean, that video is bone chilling. It's the same feeling you get when they force you to watch *** meetings in american history class. That was just unbelievable, the only laughter was out of discomfort.

I want to be a spy!

Apparently three consecutive K's is banned.

Three consecutive K's are banned? lol, there is definitely a baseball joke to be made there, and it probably involves Kyle Farnsworth.

Oh and congratulations to me as Quinnipiac Ice hockey is ranked 20th in the nation, their first cracking of national ranking since....last season. One poll has us at 16 after beating colgate and #12 Cornell this weekend. QU vs the struggling Harvard is televised this friday.

Who cares about hockey Vince? haha only joking man.

Mark should be on every show.

So should I.

Frank "the Tank" Catalanatto on and just gave NY a shoutout!

I agree....haha Alex when you get to college and your school is only great in one men's sport (sorry women) you tend to love that sport very quickly.

Not to mention i can't express how gratifying it is to kick princeton, yale and harvard's *** twice every season.

I think Swo goes to Colgate seeing that it's in his email address.

Probably, Swo can lick his wounds after the pounding we inflicted.

Sorry, I have extra distaste for them because they eliminated us last year in the deciding game from the playoffs and now we are much better than they are.

Frank the Tank! Frank the Tank! Gawd I love him.

Either that or maybe he is a toothpaste sales rep.

A crook then! Baking soda is what you are supposed to brush your teeth with...I am too far into a conformist's world to convert though.

I just got home about ten minutes ago. I was rushing coming out of the train, walking as fast as I could down the street, dropped my keys while trying to put them into the key hole in the front door, took off my coat in the hallway and stepped on my cat's tail. And for what? To find out that Derek Jeter DID NOT win the MVP? What the f*uck? How could those ignorant, good-for-nothing, get paid for nothing, pieces of trash voters vote for Justin Morneau? I am so incredibly furious right now. I haven't been this mad in a LONG, LONG TIME.

I have been counting down the days for today, the day when Derek Jeter finally wins his first MVP award. The day when Jeter haters finally bow down to the great one, the one and only, the greatest captain/shortstop/baseball player ever to play the game. For the day in which I could brag to my Yankees-and-everything-and-everyone-Yankee hater uncles. I am completely hating today. I wish all those voters who voted for Morneau, JUSTIN MORNEAU FOR CRYING OUT LOUD, just get fired and sent out of the country for good. They do not deserve to represent America or anything to do with America when they do not vote for the man who owns the face of baseball, American baseball. What else can go wrong today?

Oh, by the way, you guys may be thinking who the **** am, I'm a new poster and just had to write down my feelings regarding this topic. I hate this. DEREK JETER, NOT JUSTIN MORNEAU, SHOULD HAVE WON THE AMERICAN LEAGUE MVP!!!!

DEREK JETER IS THE REAL AMERICAN LEAGUE MVP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Ur not new, I've seen u before.

Are you sure? I really don't think so.

I guess a name very similar to it

Methinks Mike's "thing" has yet another new name.

Mikes?

Anybody know the number to Mike and the Maddog?

I just want to be welcome here. No nonsense, you know what I'm talking about. I just want to talk baseball and have some fun.

I don't, but if you find out can I have it.

Welcome Navy, do you have a name?/Do you go to Navy, are you in the Navy or what?

yeah its 718 937 6666...they answered me correction anyway, the final to the michigan nd game was 47-21 and michigan scored 20 in the first quarter

It's not human, that's for sure. I wouldn't call it my thing.

Besides, my thing has b*lls, unlike THAT thing...

Annnnnnnnnd Jeter with another flawless statement, unbelievable. The guy really doesn't make any mistakes, hence why the media has to create them.

I wanna know who Mike's thing is!

I do have a name, I'm not in the navy, and when when you say "do you go to navy" do you mean old navy?

oh my name is Elizabeth.

What gets me is the people saying "look who is in Jeter's lineup"...Excuse me, where these people paying attention?

I saw 3 out of 4 games from Fri-Mon on Father's Day weekend, in DC and Philly.

Jeter hit THIRD in each of those games.

In the Philly game, the OF was Melky, Damon and Bubba. No offense to any of those guys, but that is definitely NOT the killer lineup envisioned at the start of the year or the one at the end. Was anyone paying attention at that time? I guess not.

It is not Mike's, but he has aptly named the harasser of a thousand names, the "thing."

hahah no, I mean the school, which I suppose is the same as being in the Navy. Hello Elizabeth, how are you?

Mike, sportswriters are lazy, clearly, and vote without being informed.

It is clear the vote has little integrity. Some sportswriters give it a lot of thought and others just refuse to.

Hence, as I called it, The Bonehead Factor™.

Ohhh ok. I don't think this one fits the bill

**were** sorry, P.O.'d

I'm fine, and you?
Oh does anyone know of a song based on inequality, injustices, hatred towards women, or just blaming things on others? I know, a little out there, but please help me.

Guess there is a reason I have never seen an episode of Seinfeld....can't stand him, or whoever played Kramer...one of those shows where you just flip right past it on the remote

Oh does anyone know of a song based on inequality, injustices, hatred towards women, or just blaming things on others?

Posted by: navypinstripes@aol.com | November 21, 2006 06:26 PM

Just about any rap song will do.

That's a joke, 'fore anybody gets too offended.

Catch up with things in a few hours.

Well, I hear Seinfeld isn't any good anyway.

Joel Sherman
Jeter's MVP snub may be related to A-Rod

Nov 21, 2006

http://www.msgnetwork.com/content_news.jsp?articleID=v0000msgn20061121T201008175&newsgroup=ap.sportsml.columnist.article&sports=baseball&team=Yankees&league=mlb

Should I even comment about this?

I absolutely love Kramer the character. Not any more.

Libby, Why did you change your name?

What gets me is the people saying "look who is in Jeter's lineup"...Excuse me, where these people paying attention?

Posted by: yankeefan1@enter.net | November 21, 2006 06:21 PM

Exactly, were they not paying attention to the fact Morneau has batting champ Mauer in his lineup? Not to mention several other good hitters? Were they not paying attention to Morneau having the best pitcher in baseball on his team?

I'm just getting home and haven't even had a chance to read most of the comments on this, but Jeter got robbed on the MVP thing. Morneau ONLY got it because of a strong showing by his WHOLE TEAM in September. The writers really blew it on this one.

So basically it is appearing that ARod cost Jeter the MVP.

The song Kim by Eminem works, black eyed peas where is the love? Prodigy's smack my ***** up? Drips by D12? Gimme that nutt by Eazy E.

haha Rob
that is true, though . But I need one in specific.

Thanks yankeevmm.
Can I call you something shorter than that?

Nutts on ya chin by Eazy E? Shake that by Eminem. *** like that by eminem?

Just to name a few....I'm good Elizabath, where you from?

I'm Vince

Has ARod been traded yet?

Wow, I am watching a rerun of Seinfeld now, and it is weird. I'll never look at Kramer the same again!
Good thing I was always more of a Costanza gal anyway.

Took a stab at the Joel Sherman article...shouldn't have. Only got about a fourth of the way thru before getting too mad to read anymore. Let's just say that the man needs to get b*itchslapped!

I'm Dominican. Where are you from Vince? Thanks for those songs, I really appreciate it.

lol np, why did you need them? I happen to be a huge Eminem fan, umm, lyrics judgement aside. I live in florida, go to school in CT and am from NJ....I really need to come up with a better line than that

Also, I'm unpleasantly surprised that no one (that I have seen so far) is writing anything about the ridiculous double standard of complaining about how steroids have pervaded the game yet only doling out high honors like MVP to people who do exactly what steroid users do--hit lots of home runs. By NO means am I saying Morneau does roids but I'm just saying that baseball isn't exactly creating an environment where pressures to juice are shunned.

Reagrdless of the fact that his lyrics could be offensive to some I do think Eminem is one of the best lyricists that music will ever see. Traditionalists would have my head for this but I think he is a better lyricist than Bob Dylan.

Yeah, you do. I need them for a school assignment. I have to write an essay on it.

Some things Eminem can do with the english language are pretty remarkable. Everybody has the feeling of anger, success, or rubbing it in, he just verbalizes it and somehow gets everything to rhyme and sound right. It is truly amazing what he is capable of.

Are you in college or High school?

I like em, too. And he is one of the best rappers out there.

Why, where are you? LOL

Look at it the other way Gina, what steroids users do is so hard to do that they need steroids. So players who do it without the roids deserve something. Right.

But Jeter deserves the MVP. I don't care he did not get one though. I don't care abt any of these OPINION awards. You know, awards decided by polls and opinions instead of something more concrete. US media is too driven by selfish motives to have a right opinion.

College, you?

I am a junior in high School. I'm only 15!! But I'll be 16 next month. But don't let that influence you in down-sizing my baseball related comments because 1) I am very mature for my age and 2) I know a little something about baseball. That's why I'm here!!

lol I'll keep that in mind, I certainly wouldn't want people thinking less of me for my age, but then again my baritone voice should show them where I stand! That'll show'em. When you say your dominican, do you mean you live in the dominican republic? How do you feel about the MVP voting Elizabeth?

lol what the ****. How are you 15 and a Junior in hs? Don't you turn 16 sophomore year?

No, I don't live in the Dominican Republic. My parents were born there. I was born in New York, manhattan to be exact. But I live in brooklyn now. And I hate it that Derek Jeter didn't win his first MVP this year. He should have won. Morneau was not even the MVP of his own team, let alone the American League. And while I stand in my opinion the Mo Rivera is and always will be the MVP of this team, Jeter is just as important and valuable. I don't care what the results say; Derek Jeter is the 2006 AL MVP.

It is the miracle of being a fan of 32 of the 30 major league teams. It makes you older when pretending to be a teenager.

haaa I'm in Brooklyn right now as we speak, here till tomorrow. I like that I can go to the corner and eat pastrami, it has a homely feeling.